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All That Glitters
272 Broadway #732
Methuen, MA 01844
Telephone/Answering Service: 978-975-2272
E-Mail: labrown@atggems.com
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Caveat Emptor - Buyer
Beware
Too good to be true??? Many times it is... and it
takes one in the trade to point out the potential problems and make the
proper inquires.
We occasionally look on line to see what is being
offered. On eBay, we have seen items that have disappointed us many
times.
We have offered our services to eBay over the past 3 years to patrol
their website to insure that the photos, descriptions, etc. of
gemstones are accurate, as we have seen MANY cases of outright fraud
and misrepresentation. Here is just a small list of the items that
we have recently seen that would make any honest gemstone dealer
cringe. The lack of disclosure goes against FTC policies. These
“companies” could be prosecuted, but many are outside of the United
States.
Synthetic Alexandrite: Synthetic Corundum (Sapphire)
being sold as Synthetic Alexandrite. There is a BIG price
difference. The only synthetic that we carry is Synthetic
Alexandrite and we have one of the best prices, but when a company
sells the inexpensive Synthetic Corundum as Synthetic Alexandrite, not
only do we loose a sale, but the customer looses too - and will
probably never know it.
Diaspore: We have seen photos of gemstones which are
supposedly Diaspore, yet none of the Diaspore that we have seen, looks
like the material photographed.
Vivid Pink Topaz: “Natural but Heated” – so they say, but
when you know the right questions to ask, one finds out that the
material has not only been heated but also has chemicals agents
applied. We know that something is wrong when we see very large pink
topaz gemstones – very rare even in small sizes and the color is
usually not intense. IF (and that is a huge IF...) we could find gems
like these, the wholesale price expected would be many thousands of
dollars per carat. Therefore, selling a gemstone of this size and color
(even if just heated with no other treatments), could cost us $60,000
wholesale – so one cannot put this up for auction where it could sell
for $50. Something is wrong that the seller is not telling
potential customers.
Large Imperial Topaz: Very large Imperial Topazes are
being offered. Said to be natural and from Brasil. Photos look nice,
orange with red highlights. Worth a fortune wholesale in the sizes and
colors shown. Like the pink topaz above, we haven’t seen this material
in 25 year of business, so why is the price so low and the stones
are so huge? Made us wonder. They say it is natural, but when asked
they did tell us that it was a brownish color (possibly with orange
highlights) – so that tells us immediately that we are not missing
anything as this material is not the sought after true Imperial
(precious) Topaz color.
Unusual Colored Tourmaline and Other Gemstones: We have
seen colors of gemstones on line that just don’t exist naturally. The
explanation for this is that the colors have been modified digitally.
Everyone’s monitor is different and will display colors differently. We
have seen this with our own gemstones on other monitors and computer
screens, but the colors that we have seen are just way off base.
Incredible Ruby – Large, Clean: A company had a
wonderful looking 2+ct Ruby. Gorgeous! It was also certified as Natural
Ruby. If truly natural, we would be expected to pay MANY thousands of
dollars per carat, and not just a few thousand per carat either! Well,
we made an inquiry. Though the material is “natural” in origin, it has
been treated, mostly likely via the diffusion method. So this is not
the bargain as originally thought. Guess we can cross off that $40,000
Ruby for only $200.
What does one do in cases like the above??
Know the seller and insure that the item can be returned. All That
Glitter’s policy is that you have 7 days in which to inspect the
gemstone. If for any reason you do not wish to keep the gemstone,
return it in the same condition as received, for a full refund, less
shipping and any PayPal fees incurred on our end.
With All That Glitter’s, should an item be identified by a certified
gemological laboratory such as AGTA and GIA, and it is not what it was
identified as on your receipt, your purchase is guaranteed for life and
you will receive a refund. That’s right – A Life Time Guarantee.
There was an interesting case of a parcel of Natural
Cat’s Eye Alexandrite that was purchased by a person in the UK. A local
store tested it and said it was Cat’s Eye Quartz (if it was Cat’s Eye
Quartz, it would be a wonderful example in that size, sharp cat’s eye
and color shifting ability!). The material was sent to a lab in the UK
for testing and came back as what All That Glitters had indicated it
was – Natural Cat’s Eye Alexandrite.
Below are the actual titles and keywords that have been
used on eBay for a number of items. Having 25 years experience in
the gemstone trade, the owner of All That Glitters made
inquiries requesting more information, already knowing something
was wrong just from the description, the photograph, title or sttarting
price. What was sought, was the truth – what wasn’t said about
these gemstones....
Title: EXCEPTIONAL 3.55CT VVS1 EYE CLEAN GOLDEN YELLOW
TANZANITE
Large Size Master Oval Cut Ultra Rare Unheated Tanzanite
Text from the main body of the description: “Treatment: Gentle
Heat”
Comments: Notice the word – “Unheated”. This mandates that no heat
what so ever has been applied to this gemstone. This statement is
then contradicted further down in the auction where “gentle heat” was
disclosed.
Title: 23.15ct.GIANT! Stunning AAA Top Hot Pink (Topaz)
NR$1!
Described as coming from Africa – Heated
Inquiry: An inquiry was made, as I know this material is not
being found naturally. In fact, if this piece were available and
natural, this would be selling for a phenomenal price – wholesale.
The color is intense, the gemstone is clean and the size is too large
for this type of gemstone as we currently know it today. The
material just doesn’t exist naturally, so the price is entirely open
with the sky being the limit. Also, there were many large Hot Pink
Topazes available from this company as well as a number of other
companies.
Seller’s Reply: Pink Topaz, we just know that they came from
Africa and take to heated by irradiation coated treatment.
Inquiry - A second inquiry was made seeking more details.
Seller's 2nd Reply: For pink Topaz we just know that heated by
irradiation coated treatment in lab.
Comments: As suspected, it is some kind of a coating. Hopes
of finding a rarity or something of value are dashed again.
Title: 60.85ct.Museum Dazzling Unheated Imperial Topaz
NR$1!
The origin as stated as Brasil and is unheated. Color is described at
“Rich Orange Red”.
Inquiry: We wanted confirmation that the topaz was indeed from
Brasil and unheated.
Some large topaz from Mexico have been irradiated to produce decent
looking color, but with some brown – the color fades on exposure to
light. We also asked how pure the color was.
Seller’s Reply: For Imperial and Champagne Topaz are wll cut and
eye clean, not treatment in any way with brownishg orange color.
Comments: If the color is brownish orange, the color of the
photograph that we were viewing would therefore not be an accurate
color rendition and the brown overtown kills the color and therefore a
low price is to be expected. It would also be difficult to call
this color Imperial.
Title: TOP AAA LUSTER 100% FULL FIRE"RED
RUBY"MADAGASCAR"NR!
Description: Gemstone: Ruby; Quantity: 1; Weight: 2.1ct; Size: 7.6
X 5.8 X 5.3 MM.
Shape: Oval; Clarity: Flawless; Lustre: TOP AAA LUSTER 100% FULL FIRE
Origin: Madagascar; Hardess: 9; Treatment: Heated
Inquiry: This seemed to be a gorgeous gemstone. Having personal
contacts in Madagascar and hearing that a new find of Ruby would be
available in the future, I was very curious as to whether this was
entirely natural. With the treatments of Sapphire/Ruby
involving diffusion techniques producing not only orangy colored
results but others as well, I was susipicous of the size, clarity
and color. I also knew that my contacts in Madagascar said that the
Ruby that would be hitting the market in the future would have to be
fracture filled because the material was highly fractured. I had
to make an inquiry as to whether this gemstone was only heated, as this
was too good to pass up – a $10,000 or more Ruby for perhaps a few
hundred dollars.
Seller’s First Reply: You know , thesedays, There are many kind of
treatments and new technology
in gemindustry . I dont really know all of them. All equipments and
chemicals to enhance stones we import from Japan. and They dont
disclose
all . I can answer as i can.
Seller’s Second Reply after 2nd Inquiry: Sometimes Standard of
gemstone between US and Asia are not the same. Usually Sapphires are
treated by any treatments...They dont care what kind of treatment to
enhance the stones. If
treatments are acceptable in Gem industry. and we are pretty sure
The treatment of this ruby is also acceptable In Thailand .
Comments: I think the company’s reply says alot without saying too
much. If a gemstone company is buying items and doesn’t ask
questions when certain colors or sizes are seen, they shouldn’t be in
that business. Most of all the currently known treatments are
documented and some have simple tests to reveal these
treatments. Of course, the policy of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” can
have financial gain and a way to accept an incorrect identification
without admitting wrong doing. As this company indicates, the
standard or acceptance of some treatments can vary from country to
country.
Title: VOLCANIC 2.34CT VVS2 CLR RED PINK
PADPARADSCHA SAPPHIRE
Description indicated Heat; No other treatment was mentioned
Inquiry: Similar to the above inquiry. This color, size,
clarity, cutting, price, etc. say to us Diffusion!
Sellers Reply to Inquiry: Many thanks for your email. All our
items are 100% genuine and are not fakes, synthetics or simulants in
any kind of way. This item has bot been chemically coated or surface
diffused. There is a chance that it has been cooked in the prescence of
natural Chrysoberyl (a yellow gem found in Madagascar and East Africa)
whereby light elements of Be from the Chrysoberyl (remember the
periodic table at school!) helps open up the color.
Comments: As suspected, the gemstone was not entirely natural, it
had been treated to give that wonderful color that one saw in the
photos. American dealers have been hesitant to accept this
relatively new treatment for sapphires/rubies. Personally, we have
stopped buying certain colors unless we have been dealing with those
dealers from abroad for years and have reassurance from then that if we
find out something different than we are told, we can return the
gemstone.
Note that no where in the auction did it state treated or
enhanced. It did say heat. The company selling this gemstone
only revealed the treatment because I specified asked the right
questions. It did require two emails to be sent to this company
before a reply was received. Also note, that the term Padparadscha
is misused here. The color description used would disqualify this
as a Padparadscha. Their comment about the Beryillium Diffusion was sad
- "it opens up the color". Actually, it is responsible for the
color - sort of like dying eggs at Easter time. If you want to
call that process, "opening up the color" of the eggs, then he does
have a point! The natural eggs certainly did not have bright blue,
yellow, green, purple, orange prior to dying, and I don't believe the
eggs in other countries are much different than the New England area.
It was very easy to look at Feedback for those companies
whose ads/auctions appear above. Much of the feedback was
positive. One of the reasons for this is that the general public
does not understand the indiosycr of gemstones - color is very
important, as is size, cutting and inclusions. Most of those
purchasing the items we listed above are not aware that the gemstone
they purchased is not 100% genuine and that the color is
enhanced. There will be those who are disatified with their
purchase and feel cheated but others, even knowing that the color is
not natural, will still be very happy with their purchase. As long
as people know what they are purchasing and all knowledge is disclosed
at the time of purchase, everyone will be happy.
Very disapointed with sale.
Spent $2,000 most items are dyed. Misrepresented
Misleading ad. Sell won't
contact me about returns. Emailed them 5 days ago.
Not as discribed, worth 1/10
of the discribed stone. Asked to return got not res
Stone is not yellow as
discribed. It is a bad clear. Worthless. No response
Final Notes – we have sent a Return Receipt requested letter to
eBay in the past, as well as a few emails and regular letters without a
Receipt request. Our services were offered to police eBay for
potentiallly fradulent auctions/advertisements in not only the gemstone
sections, but minerals, jewelry, etc. Unfortunately, we never made
any progress. This is most likely due to the fact that there is
money in the auctions/advertisements as well as fees paid. PayPal
was also purchased by eBay in the not too distant past – again, more
sales, more revenue. If customers complain about a seller, then
the seller will probably be banned from eBay and will just open another
account. BUT, how many customers actually know what they are
buying? How is the buyer going to know that the gemstone they
purchased is not exactly the genuine article that they thought they
were purchasing? Many sellers count on the fact that they won't
find out. Most customers have no idea that they should be
concerned, especially if an item is described as genuine or
natural. It can be costly to professionally have a gemstone
examined. Also, the person examining it could not have the proper
background to truly do the examination and determination
necessary. They could also have ulterior motives. Does the
person buying the wonderfully colored sapphire for over $1000 realize
that the color is not the true color of the original
gemstone? Personally, we wouldn’t purchase that material if
we knew it was Diffusion Treated. We are willing to accept heat as
many gemstones have been heated routinely for hundreds, if not
thousands of years, but Diffision is entirely different.
Questions to ask yourself:
Do the companies selling gemstones have a gemologist to perform due
diligence? Are they up on treatments and enhancements? Will
they stand behind something and refund purchases if the item proves to
be treated or enhanced and the buyer wasn’t made aware of it?
Trust the company and people you purchase not ony
gemstones from, but all items that you are not an expert
in. Unfortunately, the gemstone field is an area of study that is
constantly changing, but those who constantly read trade journals and
have good business ethics and morals, will do their best as the Federal
Trade Commission (FTC) now demands. Companies abroad have
different regulations as well as different treatments that they accept.
Trust those who depend on
their reputation and integrity! Disclosure is important and a
right of the customer.
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"I have just finished
reading your Caveat Emptor section and agree wholeheartedly with your
warnings and observations. I applaud you for including that
information as part of your website, which I thoroughly enjoy visiting
from time to time."
LA - Richland, WA
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"The lab report is back on the alexandrites, and I am
delighted to say that they are exactly what you said they were. We are
both over the moon, and looking forward to going to the jeweller and
telling
her she was wrong, and also having them set. "
FW - W. Sussex, England (UK)
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"I found you through a google search. I had to wade
through a lot of garbage before I found you, but it definately was
worth the wait. I knew that if I looked hard enough I could find a
legitimate gem dealer on the web, and I have. By the way, the
photos you sent me of the yellow beryl confirmed what I had
presumed...that this was one very nice gem. The original photo did
it absolutely no justice. I will take the stone..The gem arrived
Friday. It is exceptional..."
LS - Chatham, MA (Yellow Beryl)
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